Spoiler…. I’m pro-spanking.
I was spanked. But not abused.
I have to say that it’s true, the spanking from AP is just that, spanking, and it takes away a lot from real child abuse, or have we forgotten the “BOARD” from a PE, or Football coach in school???, isn’t a board considered a weapon?, you wander why our country is in such a mess, with so much disrespect and so forth, I bet that quiet time out has done wonders.
My mom used to say,
“That padding on your behind was meant for more than just sitting on!”
Spankings are sometimes needed!
Pro spanking / anti-abuse and you are right.
Wooden spoon worked every time. Result: Working, independent, responsible adults. I didn’t even have to spank the last one. He learned from watching.
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I was spanked. Hard. Only took twice from my Dad and I never needed it again. I spank my own kids, not as hard as I was b/c I worry about my strength. Increase in school behavior is inversely correlated with the elimination of corporal punishment.
I got spanked when I was little.. Taught me not to dare my brother to lick the clothesline pole when is was 20 below and snowing outside..lol.. I totally deserved it.
Well done. Crowder draws the proper line between what constitutes abuse and what constitutes proper discipline. We should have a national conversation as to where parents should draw this line.
Good points Mr Steven Crowder Odd, how NO one seems to understand the cognitive dissonance in the fact that we remove God from schools, prohibit prayer, tell kids that their parents can’t spank them or discipline them without it’s “abuse”, teach them they’re animals and then pretend to be “shocked” by them acting like animals.
Everything old and tried and true is stupid don’t ya know and the “modern” thinker always knows better than their parents, the Bible, history etc etc.. http://www.kjv-truth-ministries.org
The biggest issue I have with this whole debate is about controlled punishment. I don’t know all the details about AP yet, but if he simply broke off a tree branch and started whacking his son with it and left him with some scratches and bruises, I am not cool with that. I’m not cool with that being lumped in to the ‘spanking’ discussion. Proper physical punishment should never be spur of the moment, when a parent gets frustrated or even angry with his/her child. Punishment should be controlled and carefully regulated to not leave lasting damage. Because damage isn’t the point. I was spanked several times, and it never left more than a red mark that disappeared after a couple minutes. Spanking should always be done out of love to teach children to not do what is wrong. Never out of anger because they won’t quiet down. Angry punishment is what so often leads to serious injury and deep scars, both physical and mental.
Would holding out for a cookie with that milk have been pushing your luck?
BULLSHIT. Striking a kid is wrong just like striking any other being. People like you talk about “spanking” but rarely ever explain where YOU draw the line. Ask 10 different people and you might get 10 different answers. Instead of making it clear that all hitting kids is wrong, you establish a blurry line that people can define how they see fit. YOU are responsible for belittling child abuse, not us!
The same crowd that thinks if you SWAT your child’s backside that a SWAT team should be at your house in 10 minutes to take them away are the same crowd that says its okay to KILL them the first 9 months of their life!!
You don’t know what you are talking about. Take the time to read the science, or even a child development book before you start spreading this garbage! http://stopspanking.org/2013/06/20/what-researchers-say-about-spanking/
Spanking with an open hand on a clothed bottom is an effective disciplinary measure. As long as the child understands why they are being spanked and that future bad behavior will lead to a similar punishment, it generally works to modify bad behavior. I worked on me and it worked on my kids (now 39 and 36) when they were young. BTW, so-called time outs have to be one of the lamest forms of discipline invented.
Yep. Yep. Yep.
It’s ok to spank. Don’t go overboard with it though. I always explained to my kids the reason they were getting a spanking and I didn’t have to do it often. they knew when I meant business. They are amazing adults who respect themselves and other people.
You believe what you want. I will believe what I want.
There’s truths and lies to both sides of the story.
And again, let’s separate a mere spanking from beatings!
So here is scenario…Your child hits his/her sibling or you(the parent), and the parent in turn spanks the child(and yes, spanking is hitting) in order to teach the child a lesson that it’s not okay to hit. How the heck is that child going to learn that hitting is bad when they are being struck? Children learn from example. I have 2 children…never hit them, not once. I grew up being spanked all the time and learned not to do things out of the fear of being punished, not because it was right/wrong. Spanking hurts….it’s lazy parenting. Just because something is “old school” or because we got our butt spanked doesn’t make it right. Men go to jail for hitting their wife, others go to jail for fighting in a bar(assault), yet it’s okay to hit a DEFENSLESS child who can’t even fight back? No! Get educated pro-spankers…you are doing more damage than good…and maybe take an anger management class while you’re at it…and stop HITTING your children…they may actually listen to you…respect them and they will respect you
I was spanked, it was very effective from my father. I can maybe remember 3 x. I spanked mine but it wasn’t very effective so I changed my methods of discipline. That is the difference between abuse and spanking. An abuser is doing it for THEIR own satisfaction, not to teach the child . A swat on the butt to get a child’s attention to teach them right from wrong is a big difference . I think the people who have a big problem with this have had a traumatic childhood in some way such as being neglected or invisible.
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I was always sent to my room before a spanking, and my dad would come in a few minutes later, calm, collected, and he would explain to me exactly why I was getting a spanking. He would then administer however many licks (usually no more than 4-5), and he would then always, ALWAYS hug me and tell me he loved me. I knew that I deserved correction for whatever I had done, and I had no doubt my parents still loved me even when I messed up. I was not beaten, nor was I spanked on any part of my body other than my backside. My grandmother had a switch over the door at her house, but she never had to use it. The very thought of the possibility of her using it was enough for me.
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